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How Are You Feeling Right Now?

LumberJack

Huggy Bear 🐻 u r warned!
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I'm feeling quite bad but I know others have it worse. I'm broken; lack any sense of confidence because of anxiety. Should've taken myself out 2 years ago
I know the feeling. Something I try to remind myself of is that mental health issues are disorders precisely because they don't have a clear explanation. If anxiety were justified, it would be caution, not anxiety. I also feel like any time I I "should on myself" over the past is not helpful. We cannot change our past behaviors, and the fact that we would do differently today is a sign that we have grown in wisdom.

I believe that comparison very truly is the thief of joy. This is whether we are comparing ourselves to people who have what we wish to have, but also if we are comparing ourselves to others who have suffered more adversity than we think we have. The first consideration is that we might be discounting our own perseverance and deciding that we are less strong than others see us as. The second is that suffering really is hard to quantify. There are some clear examples, e.g., losing a son or daughter is going to be more painful than losing a pet. The latter is still pain, though. Alternatively, it's also the case that grief is grief regardless of the loss in question. I used to think that I was better off than widows who had lost their spouses after decades of marriage. Being older, and having built more connection with their spouse, I imagined that such a loss would be much harder to endure. When I expressed this to someone in that situation, though, she advised that losing a partner when you haven't had enough time together seemed harder to her. Since that happened, I feel like it's not a useful comparison to worry about.

That said, it is still a very ingrained habit for me, and as you may have observed here, I still do it to myself. We are all works in progress. I really hope you can start to see how much you have to offer. Not in spite of your past, but because you have been through it. Externally imposed suffering can make us softer, more open, and more empathetic. The reverse (anger, bitterness, hostility) may also occur, and I think it's even more likely. For me, though, I feel like I can offer support to people who have lost someone very close, if the other person is open to that. So, maybe your current difficulties could enable you to express care and empathy for others in a similar "boat," and who knows - these others may benefit from your example. Okay I will stop with the happy-sappy positivity now. I just wish I could help ease your pain. You DON'T deserve that!
 

Windhover

meandering home
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@LumberJack Your post is much appreciated. It's a suggestion to turn my focus back to a perspective that I have, which is compassion for my self and others. The struggle is the habit or pattern, whatever, in which I seem to drift away from worth and back to depression. I'm a person who enjoys words especially when they're able to tease out and clarify some of the obtuse stuff. I'm beginning to understand how some issues aren't actually hiding or difficult, except to those of us who have copped some damage due to trauma. But, healing is not impossible. I am tired of my victim-ness. I didn't use to be this way. I am not saying I want to be positive all the time as that is inane and unrealistic. The goal, at least how I see it for now, is to clear away some of the words and ideas bonded to my mind. I hope my rambling makes sense.
 

LumberJack

Huggy Bear 🐻 u r warned!
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@LumberJack Your post is much appreciated. It's a suggestion to turn my focus back to a perspective that I have, which is compassion for my self and others. The struggle is the habit or pattern, whatever, in which I seem to drift away from worth and back to depression. I'm a person who enjoys words especially when they're able to tease out and clarify some of the obtuse stuff. I'm beginning to understand how some issues aren't actually hiding or difficult, except to those of us who have copped some damage due to trauma. But, healing is not impossible. I am tired of my victim-ness. I didn't use to be this way. I am not saying I want to be positive all the time as that is inane and unrealistic. The goal, at least how I see it for now, is to clear away some of the words and ideas bonded to my mind. I hope my rambling makes sense.
Very glad to read this. warning: emoji flood incoming:

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I also struggle with my own entrenched, unwelcome victim mentality. I have noticed that the harder I am on myself, ironically, the more likely I will slip into blaming everyone but myself for the painful consequences of my own decisions, and those of events that are no one’s fault. Spit just happens sometimes, ya know? And in this case, sometimes is pretty fkn often!
 

AvidFan

Retired Cat Staff
SF Supporter
That's not life gaslighting you, it's an organization with some less than healthy people making it up. I know it's hard to see this when it's happening, because I frequently question my sanity, especially when a peer disagrees with me. Over time, though, I have learned that the person most confident in their own opinion, is also the most likely to be factually wrong, and/or unaware of their own logical missteps in forming that opinion. I guess that's similar to the Dunning-Kruger effect but on the farther side. The more expert we get, the more aware we are that we don't have any business proclaiming anything that we cannot back up with citations if appropriate.

By the same token, the loudest, most self assured voice in the room is almost always the least informed and the least effective at whatever skill they are claiming. I submit as a case study and a supreme example of this phenomenon, a certain political figure, who need not be named because being certain and wrong at the same time is this figure's trademark. There are less severe examples in my own history.

I also know that higher ups are more sensitive to political manipulation (aka ego-stroking or making them look good to their superiors) than to technical expertise. I do not doubt your assessment that they will fail as decent arbiters of the truth of the matter, however I disagree that you should doubt yourself as a result of those idiots. It's not your problem, it's just organizational dysfunction. IMHO, of course! :)
Thank you @LumberJack

Quick update - despite me providing evidence in terms of what it says in the documentation, the higher ups did side with the other person. Apparently something changed at some point but nobody thought to put it in the documentation. So the documentation says do one thing, but apparently it's also fine to do the opposite. No idea what the point of having the documentation is! Organized dysfunction sounds just about right.

I will try not to doubt myself, hard as it is with experiences like this!
 

crowgarden

Well-Known Member
aimless. I've spent so much time looking for meaning, for purpose, for a reason to keep myself alive even though every single breath I take feels akin to sliding a razor down my throat, even though every path I walk down seems to be made of nothing but hot coals, even though I despise this wretched place I call my home with every fiber of my being.

I hate. I hate so, so inexpressibly much. I want to die.
 

LumberJack

Huggy Bear 🐻 u r warned!
SF Supporter
I'm feeling pretty darn good - I did a volunteer training at the Equine Therapy center that I had applied to around March-April timeframe. It was a huge motivator! The other volunteers and the staff were just great to meet, and I got to nerd out just a bit with another engineer there, so that was neat. I'm now qualified to sign up for shifts. There's a barn cleaning event planned for this weekend. I haven't registered yet because I need to figure out if I'm going to be doing another thing that was planned earlier. I will go though, if the other thing falls through, lol! They said they do it as a large group and they make it fun. I know from other volunteer engagements where I helped clean that I love that.

I am also overjoyed to learn that my love for horses is still there. I thought that since it had been dormant for so long, that maybe it had atrophied. Nope - I just didn't know how much I was missing an equine connection until I got near some of their herd.

Main suprise in the training is that the volunteer duties are a lot more physical than I had supposed. I need to beef up my balance, spatial awareness, and proprioception... I really struggled to point my hips in the same direction I was heading. I stay too far up in my head when I'm trying to learn something so if I need to be coordinated, I need to switch to a more somatic focus. Live and learn - I'm even excited to take on this challenge as it can only help me in all other areas of my life, and I feel accountable for doing so in order to be an effective helper there. I'm also hoping that with my own neurodiversity, I might be able to help clients who are also there for that reason.

In short, I'm riding an altruism "high" and it's definitely more pleasant to me than alcohol. Plus (hopefully) no hangover so it's a win-win! Oh, I also hope I have a positive impact on any of the clients, or other staff, that I end up working with.
 

LumberJack

Huggy Bear 🐻 u r warned!
SF Supporter
So the documentation says do one thing, but apparently it's also fine to do the opposite. No idea what the point of having the documentation is! Organized dysfunction sounds just about right.
OMFG outdated documentation is the bane of my existence! I refer to the documentation because I don't want to bother anyone with questions that have already been answered. That way I'm only expending one person's time instead of two people's. Plus, as a process improvement expert by training, experience, and personality, I need the process docs to map out where efficiencies could be gained. So - I do get very grumpy and quite prone to express my dissatisfaction when the knowledge base article, or whatever, says do "A" but in practice, do "not A." I would far prefer zero documentation to outdated or irrelevant docs.

Funny story, of which you may already be aware: An expert in the field of computer science compares documentation to sex - It's only important when you can't get it, and even when it's bad, it's still better than none. However, he was referring to technical documentation, e.g., of programming functions and features. Process documentation is another beast. I will say that sex with someone whose personality I find obnoxious is more trouble than it's worth in the long run, and so it is with outdated documentation, especially when its supposed to govern how I do my job in the day to day.
 

AvidFan

Retired Cat Staff
SF Supporter
I'm feeling pretty darn good - I did a volunteer training at the Equine Therapy center that I had applied to around March-April timeframe. It was a huge motivator! The other volunteers and the staff were just great to meet, and I got to nerd out just a bit with another engineer there, so that was neat. I'm now qualified to sign up for shifts. There's a barn cleaning event planned for this weekend. I haven't registered yet because I need to figure out if I'm going to be doing another thing that was planned earlier. I will go though, if the other thing falls through, lol! They said they do it as a large group and they make it fun. I know from other volunteer engagements where I helped clean that I love that.

I am also overjoyed to learn that my love for horses is still there. I thought that since it had been dormant for so long, that maybe it had atrophied. Nope - I just didn't know how much I was missing an equine connection until I got near some of their herd.

Main suprise in the training is that the volunteer duties are a lot more physical than I had supposed. I need to beef up my balance, spatial awareness, and proprioception... I really struggled to point my hips in the same direction I was heading. I stay too far up in my head when I'm trying to learn something so if I need to be coordinated, I need to switch to a more somatic focus. Live and learn - I'm even excited to take on this challenge as it can only help me in all other areas of my life, and I feel accountable for doing so in order to be an effective helper there. I'm also hoping that with my own neurodiversity, I might be able to help clients who are also there for that reason.

In short, I'm riding an altruism "high" and it's definitely more pleasant to me than alcohol. Plus (hopefully) no hangover so it's a win-win! Oh, I also hope I have a positive impact on any of the clients, or other staff, that I end up working with.
This is great to read. ❤️
 
My mom messaged today and said the mole she had has to be sent to a pathologist and that the doctor didn’t tell her whether it’s something or nothing properly. That she has lost weight and another doctor warned her saying this is dangerous and a cold could seriously hurt her like this. My cat seems healthy but he is 12, I wished I could have gone back more often now…. My sister is a young woman with many mental health issues and anxiety and I feel like I wasn’t a good sister to her and miss her. She is so smart and speaks amazing English but she couldn’t talk properly to our British relative out of severe anxiety today when we video called. My dad, I love him but these internet issues… I haven’t talked to him properly in a long time.

Everything hurts and I can’t go back to see them. It all reminds me of when I was 17 and I once prepared tea and a snack for my grandma who raised me but had Alzheimer’s disease at that point. That day I decided I would try to give back all that she had done for me when I was a kid. 3 days later she was gone. I feel at my lowest again.
 

Windhover

meandering home
SF Supporter
My days are dark and I don’t study. What if I can’t finish my degree. I wanna make my dad proud so he can tell people that his daughter is a doctor the way he always wanted. I haven’t been a good daughter to him my whole life.
I hope you can get back to studying, and can feel less dark. You can do this. I'm sorry things are so incredibly challenging and worrisome. We're on your side @PrincessPure
 

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